The location was a bar in a private members' club for ex/serving military personnel, in Waterloo central London.

Sat surrounding JB, in a horseshoe shape, like attentively listening disciples around a besuited sage were fifteen members of the London New-Right; the pragmatic English take on France's GRECE/Nouvelle-Droite, that was founded in 2005 by Troy Southgate. The interview itself had taken place shortly after Bowden had closed a successful NR meeting with a memorable and energetic talk about the historical and cultural significance of Punch & Judy; a favourite subject he'd covered previously in essays and a film entitled Grand Guignol.

Forever the performer, Bowden enjoyed the attention and answered the myriad of questions put to him instantaneously, like an actor delivering lines from a well rehearsed script, but in his case, they were questions he had been contemplating for most of his adult life. The topics ranged from a damning critique of The Conservative party, UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party) the BNP (British National Party), Islam, Christianity, Paganism, the Middle-East, Israel, the EU, Feminism, and the social decline of the working-class ethnic-English in the post-industrial north.

In-between questioning we broke for coffee and I decided to keep the camera running. For myself, this was the most interesting part of the whole proceedings because it allowed Jonathan's humour, complaisance, and knowledge of British popular culture and subcultures to come through. There were also some humourous anecdotes thrown in about an ex-tabloid newspaper columnist and characters that Bowden had crossed paths with over the years. Due to their potentially libellous nature I promised Jonathan I would edit them out if the interview ever saw the light of day.

JB: Cut all that stuff out I said about G**y Bu***ll, would you?.

(NB) Black Gnosis claim legal and moral right to the above footage. Acknowledgement to blackgnosis.com

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